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A Wholly Different Way of Living: San Diego, California 1974

28th February 1974 18th Conversation with Dr. Allan W. Anderson

'Meditation - 2'

A: Mr Krishnamurti, we were discussing in our conversation last time meditation. And just as we concluded you brought up the very beautiful analogy from the flowering of a plant, and it struck me that the order that is intrinsic to the movement of the plant as it flowers is a revelatory image of order that you have been discussing. And we were talking also about the relation of meditation to understanding on the one hand and knowledge on the other, a distinction that's very, very rarely made.

K: Yes.

A: Though in ordinary language we make the distinction perhaps unwittingly. It's there.

K: It's there.

A: We have the two words.

K: Quite.

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What is Meditation?
Conversation with Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, San Diego, California, 15th Feb. 1972.

Krishnamurti in conversation with Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, a Tibetan Buddhist meditation master and founder of the Naropa Institute in Colorado. Krishnamurti opens up the question of meditation, contrasting the system of practice with living observation. A vital meditation is seen to be essential for the orderly quietness of the mind, which is then dynamic in action.

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Washington D.C. 1st Public Talk 20th April 1985:

'In The Present Is The Whole Of Time'

This is not a lecture on any particular subject according to certain disciplines, scientific or philosophical. Lectures are meant to inform on a particular subject or instruct, but we are not going to do that. So this is not a lecture, nor is it a form of entertainment. In this country especially, one is greatly accustomed to being entertained, amused. Rather in these talks, this afternoon and tomorrow morning, we are going to talk together about the whole of our existence from the moment we are born until we die.

In that period of time, whether it be fifty years, ninety years or a hundred years, we go through all kinds of problems and difficulties. We have economic, social, religious problems; problems of personal relationship, problems of individual fulfilment, wanting to find one's roots in some place or other; and we have innumerable psychological wounds, fears, pleasures, sensations. There is a great deal of fear in all human beings, a great deal of anxiety, uncertainty, and a pursuit of pleasure, and also all human beings on this beautiful earth suffer a great deal of pain, loneliness. We are going to talk about all that together. And about what place religion has in modern life. We are also going to talk over together the question of death; and what is a religious mind and what is meditation; is there anything that is beyond thought and is there anything sacred in life, or is everything matter so that we lead a materialistic life?

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Washington D.C. 2nd Public Talk 21st April 1985

'At The End Of Sorrow Is Passion'

May we continue where we left off yesterday. We were talking about fear and the ending of fear. And also we were talking about the responsibility of each one of us facing what is happening in the world, the appalling, frightening mess we are in. And for that we are all responsible, individually, collectively, nationally, religiously, and all the affairs of the world we have made after millennia upon millennia, long evolution, we have still remained barbarians, hurting each other, killing each other, destroying each other. We have had freedom to do exactly what we liked and that has created havoc in the world. Freedom is not to do what one likes, but rather to be free from all the travail of life, from the problems, which we went into yesterday morning, from our anxieties, from our psychological wounds, from all the conflict that we have put up with for many many many millennia. And also to be free from fear. We talked about all these things yesterday afternoon.

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What Love is Not

1st Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 8th July, 1979

Is There a Way Out of the Crisis in the World?


Is there another kind of thinking which is not about something?

When you give attention completely is there a centre from which you attend?

Can self-centred problems be solved without a different quality of thinking?

When there is no tomorrow psychologically what happens to the quality of your mind? Then what is your relationship to another?

In thinking together is there opposition? Where does thinking together lead in my relationship to another?

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What Love Is Not

2nd Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 10th July, 1979

Can We Together Create a Good Society?


When we think together is there a sense of fulfilment, division, or frustration? What happens to relationship?

If there is no psychological time at all what is relationship between people?

Do you say, "I will love you tomorrow"?

Will belief or authority bring us together? Is there security in separateness?

When we think together out of that will be created a good society.

A good society can only come into being when you are responsible for another.

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What Love Is Not

3rd Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 12th July, 1979

Is There Security at All Psychologically?


Has the desire for security psychologically taken over physical demands?

Is there security in a belief, an ideal, experience?

Can you listen so completely that you see the absurdity of living in illusion and end it?

Can we stay with fact and have no relationship to non-fact? What is the quality of the mind which is facing what is happening?

If you have no images what is your relationship to the mind which is still seeking security?

In thinking together isn't there total security?

When you put aside choice is there insight into the whole of illusion?

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What Love Is Not

4th Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 15th July, 1979

Can Goodness, Love, Truth Be Born of Discipline?


Can one act without effort think clearly without the determination to think clearly? Can one listen without effort without an image?

Between two people each seeking fulfilment, with desires, ambitions doesn't division exist and, therefore, isn't there conflict?

Has struggle for existence in the outer world slipped into the psychological world?

Has thought invented the idea of the "me" separate from "you" and in this division hopes to find security?

Can you observe the "me" without the movement of thought?

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What Love Is Not

5th Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 17th July, 1979

Are Desire and Time Responsible for Fear?


Do we have no urge to find a different way of living?

Has thought created all problems? Has thought created the centre?

Is the root of self-centred activity desire? Is not desire born from the images thought creates? Can you observe without having desire come into being?

Isn't the movement of the image When thought realizes it is the active principle in fear what takes place?

Having listened without analysis are you free of fear?

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What Love Is Not

6th Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 19th July, 1979

Intelligence, Love, and Compassion


Is there one insight that will bring total revolution in each of us?

Aren't the outer and inner indivisible one structural movement of thought? Is there one perception that frees man completely from this psychological structure?

In knowledge, is there ignorance? Intelligence is free from ignorance and so from illusion and is not the result of knowledge.

If there is an ideal isn't action always conforming or adjusting to the ideal which is lack of perception?

With intelligence is there a state which can solve the innumerable conflicts and miseries?

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What Love Is Not

7th Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 22nd July, 1979

In Total Silence the Mind Comes Upon the Eternal


Why is there constant strife and seeking?

Are we seeking superficial sensory experience or something timeless that thought has not touched at all?

Can thought with its limitation enquire deeply? Is observation the instrument of thought?

When one observes does the thing being observed undergo change?

Can the mind having understood desire know its value is relative and be free to observe?

Is there a way of living without any control? Is not the controller the movement of thought?

When there is no conflict whatsoever what takes place in the mind?

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What Love Is Not

1st Question & Answer Meeting, Saanen, Switzerland, 25th July, 1979

Is There an Action That Doesn't Bring Sorrow?


Q: What do we mean by action?


Human beings are crippled both physically and psychologically. What is the action which will correct this?


Our action is based on the necessity of a belief, dependence, sex, ambition, achievement, success. Is there an action which is so complete that it does not leave a single shadow of pain, regret or hurt?


I want to find out if there is an action which is really whole. Are you giving your life to it or just sitting on the river bank watching the waters go by never entering the stream?


What makes a dialogue worthwhile?

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What Love Is Not

2nd Question & Answer Meeting, Saanen, Switzerland, 26th July, 1979

Finding Out What Love Is


Q: What is love and why don't we love?


I must have affection, love, otherwise we can't communicate things which are very serious. I must listen with affection, care.


Through the negation of what is not love you come to that which is love.


Love is not desire, pleasure, possession, attachment or jealousy. Love is not me and my ambition, my fulfilment. Everything that thought has created is not love.


In the perception of that intelligence is taking place, that quality of love, which is compassion, not as an idea but in one's heart, burning, alive. Compassion, love and intelligence go together; without intelligence there is no compassion.

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What Love Is Not

3rd Question & Answer Meeting, Saanen, Switzerland, 27th July, 1979

Meditation Is Giving Thought Its Right Place


What is the relationship of thought to meditation and love?


Thought has its own place. Thought is the process of thinking and thinking is the movement of memory, experience and knowledge.


Love is free from thought and independent from all activities and chicanery, dishonesty, desires, sensations, sex. All that is not love. Where love is, the "me" is not.


There is a meditation which must be totally undesired completely free of thought. To find that meditation one has to find out what is reality and what is truth.


But first you have to be good and if you have no love in your heart your meditation will be destructive.

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What Love Is Not

4th Question & Answer Meeting, Saanen, Switzerland, 28th July, 1979

What Is the Central Issue of Our Life?


Q: What is our daily life and what is our relationship to all this?


How is a human being to have clarity about politics, about work, about relationship with wife, husband, relationship to the world? How am I to be clear when I am so confused?


Why is there uncertainty in relationships? Is it because we are conditioned, educated that way? Or because each one is concerned only about himself?


Can you observe your relationship with your husband, your wife without the image, without the remembrance of sex just observe your relationship with another?


There is a way of living in which there is no confusion when the mind is able to observe without direction without motive, which is the movement of thought. Just to observe.

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What Love Is Not

5th Question & Answer Meeting, Saanen, Switzerland, 29th July, 1979

How Can We Bring About a Good Society?


Q: Can people think together?


There is Western thinking and there is Eastern thinking the world has been divided that way. But the source of the river is the same which is only thinking.


Thought is measurement.Thought, though it is necessary is bound by time, the past, the present, and the future. That process of thinking will never find that which is inexhaustible, immeasurable, timeless.


We can only think together if we love each other. Do you love your children, your husband, your wife or is it always you first and them second? Where there is division there will never be a good society. A good society can only come if you are good which means you don't belong to any category of religions, of knowledge, of conclusions.


Goodness born out of love can happen now. From that, a good society can be born.

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1st Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 12th July, 1981

What is the nature of our consciousness?


If robots and computers can do all that human beings can, what is to become of man as a social entity?

How shall a human being, who is actually the rest of mankind, face this crisis, this turning point?

Can you look at yourself not as a separate human being but as actually the rest of mankind?

We have to examine the whole of thought because it is responsible for deeper as well as superficial layers of consciousness.

Thought is limited, being a reaction of memory, so is its action limited and creating conflict?

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2nd Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 14th July, 1981

Learning That Transforms Consciousness


Are we programmed to believe that consciousness is individual? What will happen if I am not individual? Something totally different may happen.

The response of thought is experience, knowledge, memory. Then thought acts and from that you learn more and repeat the cycle. Is there another form of learning?

There is group consciousness, national, linguistic, professional and racial consciousness, fear, loneliness, pleasure, sorrow, love, death.

If you keep acting in that circle you maintain the human consciousness of the world.

Can you move away from that? Then you affect the whole consciousness of mankind.

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4th Public Talk, Saanen, Switzerland, 19th July, 1981

Living Without Images


Is there relationship between two images?

Every reaction is stored up in the brain. If there is a constant recording of everything the brain begins to wither away. Is that old age?

What is the source of desire and how does it flower? Can one observe desire as it arises?

Is there beauty only out there in the hills, the valleys, the running waters, or does beauty exist only when the "me" is not?

Is love something outside of human existence? Has it really no value at all?